The Children of John Loveland of Norwich
(From Norwich to Connecticut)


Please see also new information which supercedes some of the following text.


(Continued from The UK Roots of the Connecticut Lovelands.)

Second Generation (Children of John Loveland (1))

Note: Children refs 2 to 12 are initially of Alyce (née Tryme) and later of another wife, Mary who was buried 12-May-1593 at Norwich St.Lawrence. The date of Alyce's death in unknown. Children refs 13 to 24 are of another Mary who was buried 14-Aug-1643 at Norwich St.Gregory.

2) Annis (Agnes). First of two daughters of this name. Referred to as 'the daughter of John Loveland' at her funeral in Norwich St.Margaret (24-Dec-1583). Note: Annis (a variation of Agnes) is a separate name to Ann(e). The burial entry clearly states 'Annis'. We have no corresponding baptism for this child unless it is the 21-Sep-1579 Worplesdon, Co.Surrey baptism of Agnes Loveland, daughter of John Loveland. Apart from this very slim piece of circumstantial evidence, we have no way of knowing at present where John may have come from. The same St.Margaret burial record refers to the family as being 'strangers for the past three years' - suggesting that they arrived in Norwich (or at least that particular parish) in 1580.

3) Tomasine. Baptised Norwich St.Margaret 28-Dec-1582. No further references.

4) Anne. Baptised Norwich St.Margaret 22-Dec-1583, the first of four children given this name. The Register clearly states 'Anne'. Later uses of the name suggest infant mortality although no burial is recorded at St.Margaret's. (This is a general comment, applying throughout this generation. Even where it is obvious from the naming pattern that a child must have died in infancy, a careful search of the registers has so far revealed no burial. Maybe an expert in burial procedures in the City could offer an explanation.)

5) Unnamed female child. Norwich St.Margaret's Burial Register states 'A mayde child of John Loveland buried 22-Dec-1583, never baptised'. Possibly a stillborn twin to Anne who was baptised the same day.

6) William. Baptised 24-Jan-1584-5. Hosier and Merchant. Admitted as a Freeman of the City of Norwich 'son of John Loveland' 21-Sep-1631. Married Amy Webb Norwich St.Gregory 20-Feb-1608.

Land transactions:

9 March, 17th James 1 (1618-9). South Walsham, etc. Bargain and sale by Thomas Rownce of London, merchant to William Loveland of Norwich, hosier, of the moiety of his freehold and charterhold messuage buildings, lands, tenements, etc., in South Walsham, Upton, Burlingham, Hemplington and Ranworth cum Pansworth. R. 7m d and R. 8 (these villages are to the East of Norwich.)

24 August, 18th James 1 (1620). South Walsham, etc. Bargain and sale by William Loveland of Norwich hosier to Thomas Rownce of London merchant of a moiety of his freehold and copyhold messuages, lands, tenements, etc. in South Walsham, Upton, Burlingham, Hemplington and Ranworth cum Pansworth. R. 12 m d.

Died between 8-Oct-1623 and 10-Nov-1623 leaving wife Amy and daughter Mary.

Summary of Will, proved 10-Nov-1623:

"This 8th day of October 1623: I William Loveland of the parish of Allhallows on the Wall London Marchant"

Leaves to his daughter Mary 200 pounds to be paid 100 pounds within one week after her marriage and the remainder twelve months later.

Leaves 100 pounds to Sibill Brooke, the wife of John Brook sometime woosted weaver of Norwich, to be paid within five years of his death at a rate of 20 pounds per year.

Leaves 5 pounds each to his 'several charges'.

Leaves 20 shillings to his brother-in-law Edmund Webb.

The residue to his wife and executrix Amy Loveland.

Appoints Peter Wiggett as his overseer and gives him 40 shillings for a cloak.

Signed: William Loveland

Witnesses: Antho~ Barber Snr, Peter Wiggett, Francis Freestone.

Probate granted to Amy 10-Nov-1623.

Children of William Loveland and Amy (née Webb)

25) i Mary. Baptised 15-Dec-1609 (Norwich St.Peter). Mary is the most likely candidate for the bride of Capt. John Paddock mentioned in a letter dated 3 June 1932 from the genealogist Miss M A Farrow to her client Mr Paddock of America.

7) Mary. Baptised Norwich St.Margaret 19-Feb-1585-6. First of two children of this name. Presumed died in infancy.

8) Jone. Baptised Norwich St.Margaret 3-Apr-1587. First of two children of this name. Presumed died in infancy.

9) Ann. Baptised Norwich St.Margaret 28-Sep-1588. Second of four children of this name. Presumed died in infancy.

10) Elizabeth. Baptised ?-Nov-1589 Norwich St.Lawrence. Possibly married William Baker.

11) Ann. Third of four children of this name. Presumed died in infancy.

12) John. Baptised 20-Jul-1592 Norwich St.Lawrence. First of two sons of this name and last child of John Loveland's first 'Mary'.

13) Anne. Baptised 20-Apr-1597 Norwich St.Lawrence. Last of four children of this name. Possibly one of the unnamed daughters whose husband and/or children are mentioned in her father's Will.

14) Mary. Baptised 5-Sep-1598 Norwich St.Lawrence. Married Henry Negus at Norwich St.Gregory 12-Apr-1621. Mary was left her father's 'estate' in St.Saviour's Norwich (formerly the property of Alderman Shipdam). No children are mentioned although Farrow states that they had 'issue inter alia'..

15) John. Baptised 11-Sep-1599 Norwich St.Lawrence. The second of two sons of this name. Apprenticed for seven years in 1615 to Robert Atkyns of Norwich, worsted weaver (Norwich Record Society, Index of Indentures, p107 and microfiched copies of the original records). May have attended Norwich School, like his brother Joseph, but this possibility has not been checked yet.

In a case heard before the Board of Admiralty of 1 November 1632 [Public Records Office, Ref: HCA.13/50, Folio 152] John Loveland and his brother Jeremy are mentioned as part-owners of the ship Bonadventure. Richard Bonner of Redriffe, Surrey, a mariner aged about 38 told the Court::

On the 11th August last past at Dunkirk this deponent did buy a Flemish-built ship then and now known as the Bonadventure, 180 tons, being about 75 feet long by the keel and about 22 feet broad, and brought her thence to London. He has now sold two one-eighth parts to Francis Langston and John Loveland of London, merchants, another one-eighth part to William Cooke of Wapping, merchant, one-sixteenth part to Richard Whitlock of London, merchant, another one-sixteenth part and a thirty-second part to Matthew Fulwood of London, fishmonger, another one-sixteenth part to Abraham Marke of Southwark, brewer, another one-sixteenth part to Jeremy Loveland of London, merchant, and the rest, viz, one-quarter, one-sixteenth and one-thirty-second part he has reserved for himself. All are subjects of His Majesty the King of England, and this deponent is master of the said ship.

This is the only reference found to-date suggesting that John Loveland part-owned ships although his brother Jeremy seems have had an interest in several during the 1630s.

Although not conclusive, circumstantial evidence points to this being the husband of Widow Loveland of Wethersfield/Glastonbury, Connecticut and the father of John, Mary and Thomas, all of whom are mentioned in archives of that State. The rationale for this hypothesis is as follows:

1) Family tradition holds that the Widow's husband was the supercargo on the fateful voyage of his family to the New World.

This John's brothers Robert and Jeremy were both connected with trade to the New World between 1635 and 1660. (Robert also had trading connections with Spain.)

2) Evidence in the Connecticut archives shows that this voyage occurred between 1646 and 1650.

When his father's Will was made in June 1647, this John was stated as being deceased.

3) Evidence in the Connecticut archives shows that the Widow had a son John, almost certainly born before 1641 and thus the eldest of the male children then living in the country at that time.

The Norwich Will refers to a grandson, also called John. The presumption is that this grandson was the eldest male in his family and that he lived at some distance from Norwich since it would be necessary for him to present himself to the Porch of the Guildhall at Norwich to qualify for his inheritance.

The Porch at Norwich Guildhall where John had to come to receive his inheritance.

4) Family tradition also holds that three bothers came to the New World and that one drowned in the Connecticut River soon after arriving.

Some researchers have assumed that these three brothers were the sons of the Widow Loveland but this now seems unlikely. If we assume that the family arrived in late 1646 or early 1647, then John (presumed the eldest) may have been a little more than six years old, and his brother Thomas about five. If they were the family of John (the younger) of Norwich then a third brother is unlikely to have been older than these two. Therefore, it is unlikely that it was one of this generation who was drowned crossing the river. What seems more plausible from the evidence available to us today is that the three brothers in question were John (the Widow's husband), Jeremy and Robert; it being Jeremy who drowned.

This theory is supported by the Grant of Letters of Administration for the Goods of Jeremy Loveland to his brother Joseph in London on 10-Dec-1650.

It is interesting that the 1930s notes of Miss M A Farrow state:

It is stated that John Loveland's three sons emigrated some time in the 17th century, John, Jeremy, Robert and William. John was dead before his father in 1649.

The implication is that she was not aware that William had died many years before, in 1623. We can now add to this information by stating that John was actually dead before June 1647.

So the important question is what is the probability of there being another John Loveland, supercargo, who's details fit so closely.

Although the 'obvious' marriage for John Loveland is that referred to in the following Marriage Licences of the Bishop of London, whether this is actually the case is slightly less certain :

John Loveland of St.Botolphs Billingsgate, merchant bachelor aged 26 & Elizabeth Busfield of Stepney, Spinster aged 17, daughter of William Busfield, Gent of Leeds County York who alleges, etc. at Stratford Bowe Middlesex May 20 1631.

Records of the Busfield family add that John was a Spanish merchant and that they had a daughter Jane and 'possible other children'. The reason for their requiring a marriage licence from the Bishop is not obvious unless it is because of the bride's relatively young age.

The fact that John gave his age as 26 when he would have actually been 30 if he was born in 1599 is a problem, but then again it would not have been the first time that a groom (or bride) had 'miscalculated' his or her age in this way, particularly when such an evident age difference existed.

It is also important not to forget that other Loveland families appeared in the London Docks area in the relevant period:

These names, dates and occupations (association with the docks) suggest a connection with John of Norwich although none has been put forward to date. We know of no John, born 1606 to either of these families, but it remains a possibility. Hence our caution in stating categorically at this time that John was definitely the husband of Widow Loveland.

If John was the husband of Widow Loveland, and she in turn was Elizabeth Busfield, the there is a gap of fifteen or so years between their marriage (1631) and emigration (1646-7). In this case, is it plausible that their son John was the eldest male heir and the only child that John's father chose to mention in his 1647 Will? Why, for example, was Thomas who would have been about six at the time not mentioned? On the 'up side' Elizabeth's relative youth (she would have been only 37 in 1651) is consistent with her remarrying (Thomas Edwards) around that year and having another daughter, Ruth.

Clearly there is more to be discovered but in the meantime we invite others to draw their own conclusions.

Children of John Loveland (15)

(Assuming him to be the husband of Elizabeth Busfield and Widow Loveland)

26) i Jane (born between 1631 and 1641)

27) ii John (born earlier than 1641)

28) iii Thomas (born 1641)

29) iv Mary (born 1646)

16) Sarey (Sarah). Baptised 12-Feb-1600 Norwich St.Lawrence. Married Henry Hardington 13-Jul-1623 Norwich St.Gregory. Neither is apparently mentioned in her father's Will (nor any children of that name).

17. Agnes. Baptised ??-Apr-1602 Norwich St.Lawrence. Married --------- Brett. No children are mentioned in her father's Will.

18) Joseph. Baptised 3-May-1604. Presumed to have married since one daughter, Mary (born about 1649), is referred to both in his Will and in the record of her marriage to Richard Sterne in 1667 (see later). No record of the name or death of his wife, which is presumed to have occurred before 1695.

Joseph Loveland, MA, Rector of Wimple in Cambridgeshire, Prebend of Wetwong in the Church of York installed August 7, 1600; he died May 20, 1695, in the 92nd year of his age, and gave 200 pounds to the City. He was buried at the upper end of the south isle of the Cathedral (Norwich), but his stone is now removed, and laid between the 2nd and 3rd pillars on the north side of the nave (JMH note: where it can be seen today). Joseph Loveland, sab. 3 boars heads cooped or. (All from An Essay towards a Topographical History of the County of Norfolk, by Rev.Francis Blomefield, 1806 Vol.III.)

Click here to see a large (175kB) image of Joseph Loveland's memorial stone at Norwich Catherdral.

Loveland, Joseph; of Norwich; son of John Loveland, School, Norwich, under Mr.Stonham. Age 15 admitted to the scholars' table. Feb 11, 1618-9. Surey Mr.Mitchell, fellow.

BA 1622-3: MA 1626. Scholar, L(ady) Day 1620 to L(ady) Day 1626. (Lady Day = 25th March). Ordained priest (Norwich) April 17, 1629. Senior fellow, Lady Day 1632 to Apr 9, 1644, when he was ejected at three days' notice for refusing to take the Solemn League and Covenant. Proctor, 1636. President of the College, 1643-4. Prebend of Norwich 1660-95. Prebend of York, 1672-95. Rector of Wimpole, Cambridgeshire 1642 till his ejection. In a complaint of the inhabitants (Baker; XXVII, 458), it is charged "that he doeth absent himself from his cure for a quarter of a year at a time ... he hath according to his means endeavoured to maintain the War against the Parliament and hath sent horse to the King of one Lancaster, and charged him rather than the Parliament should light on horse, the party that carried the horse should ride the horse to death."

He gave 200 pounds to the City of Norwich, and 100 pounds to the Boys' Hospital. He died May 20, 1695; and is buried in Norwich Cathedral where there is a monument to his memory. There are a number of letters from him in the Tanner MSS (No.40) in the Bodelean Library (Oxford).

(Biographical History of Gonville and Caius College 1349-1898. Compiled by John Venn, SCD, FSA, FRS, Senior Fellow of the College. Vol 1.)

Richard Sterne of Westminster (London) Gent, bachelor age 26, and Mary Loveland, spinster, age 17, daughter of Joseph Loveland, Clerk, rector of Wimpole, Co.Cambridge who consents -- at St.Bartholomew the Less or Great, or St.Andrew Holborn, London 11 Feb.1666-7, of, i.e. Faculty Office of Archbishop of Canterbury. (London Marriage Licences 1521-1869.)

Quotations for Joseph's Will, not already mentioned:

Imprimis. I give to the Citizens of Norwich 100 pounds for ever to be from time to time disposed of by the Mayor Aldermen and Common Council, by way of load, gratis and without interest for the term of 5,6 or 7 years to three Citizens of Norwich or some trade or profession, that are sober & industrious men and well affected to the Religion of the Church of England, eac of these persons to have 50 marks apiece lent them as aforesaid & give security to repay the principall at the end of the said respective years and the Mayor Aldermen & Common Council aforesaid to be by them forthwith lent out again to three other Citizens gratis with such qualifications & limitacions as above expresses & soe for ever toties quoties.

I give 50 pounds, that is 10 pounds yearly for 5 years to the poor of St.Lawrence (Norwich) . My cousin Peter Bokenham, junior to have the distribution with one or two others.

I give to the poor of the Precincts of the Cathedral Church of Norwich within 10 days after my decease 10 pounds and my will is that the widdows of such husbands as have been of or in any office in the said Cathedral Church a double share, to be distributed by Mr. Geasty according to the Bill he usually gave me for the relief of the said poore. I give to the said Geasty 10 shillings for to distribute it.

I give 10 pounds apiece to each of the four Vicars of the parishes belonging to the Prebend of Westwang viz: -Wetwang, Frydaythorp, Elloughton & Kirby Wharfe in the County of York and 5 pounds apiece to the poor of Wimple County Cambridge 10 pounds to be distributed by the Minister, Church-wardens and overseers within 10 days after my decease. Those that receive collection (communion?) shall have double.

I give 100 pounds to be distributed by my executors, 10 pounds apiece for 10 years to bind our (sic) Apprentices of such male children as were born within the Precincts of the Cathedral Church of Norwich or whose parents have been at least three years inhabitants there but not above 5 pounds for any one lad.

I give 50 pounds towards the maintenance of such poor widows whose husbands have been Rectors or Vicars in County York or settled Curates in the Citty of Yorke to each of them 5 pounds.

I give 100 pounds to four poor tradesmen in the Citty of Yorke well affected to the Religion Established, sober, industrious men to each 25 pounds for 5, 6 or 7 years to be lent to them by the Lord Mayor, Aldermen & Common Council of the Citty of Yorke, gratis without interest, and then lent out again on the same terms forever, toties quoties

I give to the Lord Mayor Aldermen & Common Council of the Citty of Yorke 50 pounds to bind out 5 poor lads Apprentices.

I give to the poor of the Citty of Yorke who suffered by the late fire in the said Citty 10 pounds to be paid within 20 days after my decease.

I doe hereby appoint my loving sonn Richard Sterne Esq. and my daughter Mary, his wife, Executors of this, desiring and requiring them punctually to perform the same and pay all such sums of money .....

My hand and seal this 23rd April 1695 on two sheets of paper in the presence of

William Ferrer

William Clarke

Philip Geast

(signed) Joseph Loveland

Proved at London 20 June 1695 before Thomas Lane, Diocesan Surrogate, Lld

Richard Raines Militis Legum Doct. in Prerogative Court of Canterbury by Richard Sterne and Mary Sterne, Executors.

Children of Joseph Loveland (18) and ----------- ------------

30) i Mary (born circa 1649)

19. Jeremy. Baptised 27-Jan-1605 Norwich St.Lawrence. May have been educated at Norwich School (it is easy enough to check). Mentioned in the Will of Giles de Butt of Hackney, Middx, gent (written 8 February 1631) as living at the Three Tuns, Thames Street, London.

Became connected with trade to the New World during the 1630s as evidenced by a number of cases brought before the High Court of Admiralty Examination (London) during this period:

On 1 August 1632 Jeremy is listed along with James Pickeringe, Joseph Day of London (plumber), Mr.Richard Gray, John Devorrice and William Rand as one of the owners of the ship Mary Fortunee of London, a Dutch-built vessel of about 140 tons [Public Records Office, Ref: HCA.13/50, Folio 85] Another case heard in the same Court mentions that the Mary Fortune visited Canada and was captured by the French and brought back to Dieppe, France.

At the same Court on 1 November 1632, Jeremy is listed as one of the owners of the 180 ton Bonadventure. [Public Records Offic, Ref: HCA.13/50, Folio 152] (See John Loveland for details of this case.)

In the Port Book for the Port of London (Christmas 1632 to Christmas 1633) Jeremy Loveland is shown on 6 February 1633 as importing 1600 pounds of tobacco aboard the ship Margret (master J.Allen) [Public Records Office, Ref: E190/38/1]

Again in the High Court of Admiralty (in a case heard in 13 May 1638 and 3 November the same year) Jeremy Loveland is listed as one of the owners of the ship Revenge of London. This case, too long to report in full here, was brought by two men, Edward Bennett and Jonas Hopkins, who alledged that when the chartered the ship in July 1634 she was in effect 'not fit for purpose'. By the time they reached Virginia in the January of 1635 after several stops along the way for repairs they had missed the tobacco harvest completely and had to return with a cargo of non-profitable logs. [Public Records Office, Ref: C24/631 Pt.2/11 and C24/633 Pt.2/40.]

In the Port Book for the Port of London (Christmas 1637 to Christmas 1638) Jeremy Loveland is shown on 14 December 1638 as importing 4900 pounds of tobacco aboard a ship (unnamed) commanded by Wm Wilkinson. [Public Records Office, Ref: E190/41/5]

In another case, heard on 5 August 1637, brought by (Thomas Ledoze and company vs Joseph Saunders) a witness, one Henry Hedley of Limehouse, Co.Middlesex, a sailor aged 40 (sig) testified:

That Jeremy Loveland had an interest in the 18 hogsheads of tobacco he (Hedley) brought home on his own account, which was sold to {...} Norwood. Outward bound there were between 130 and 140 passengers, at a freight of 6 pounds£6 per head. That he (Hedley) hath made but two voyages to Virginia. On the first, they ballasted stones because they were up in the country where stones were to be had but at Kicekotan where the Flower de Luce balasted all the ships used sand (Printed calendar of the High Court of Admiralty Examinations 1637-1638, p152.) [Also Public Records Office, Ref: HCA.13/53, Folio 323.]

He was left 'all the estate in Wymondham, formerly the property of John Symons' (his father's brother in law).

He died sometime before 10-Dec-1650. The Grant of Letters of Administration for the Goods of Jeremy Loveland state:

Jeremy Loveland

On the tenth day [i.e. of December 1650] a commission was issued to Joseph Loveland [word divided between two lines], the natural and lawful brother of Jeremy Loveland, late of the parish of Saint Leonard, Shoreditch, in the County of Middlesex, deceased, having?, etc,

[Who] was sworn to administer the goods, debts and credits well, etc,

[right-hand margin: "[The feast] of St.Blasius ([= 3 February, Ascention Day 1652"]"

Note: All "etc"s occur in the original text: nothing has been omitted.

(Original latin text has been translated by Dr.Peter Franklin, a professional palaeographer.)

Bearing in mind that Jeremy had inherited an estate in Wymondham, Norfolk only the previous year, this Admon. granted to his brother suggests that he died suddenly (intestate) and elsewhere ("late of St.Leonard, Shoreditch"). The papers were the minimum legally required by Joseph to wind up his affairs and consistent with our theory that he was drowned abroad at the age of 45.

Jeremy also offers us another intriguing possibility. There strong indications that there was a direct male Loveland line descending from the Norwich family to a family living in London in the 1700s (see Loveland Coat of Arms). As yet we have found no firm evidence at all of how this connection is made. If our theories are correct, of the five sons of John of Norwich (1) Jeremy is the only possible candidate for establishing this connection. (William and Joseph had just one daughter each, John's sons lived in America and as far as we know Robert never married.) To date we know of no marriage for Jeremy or baptisms for any children by him. Dying intestate as he did, he leaves no evidence of his family in a Will. Yet Miss Farrow notes mention in connection with the 1650 Admon:

Jeremy Loveland: Edward Loveland, son & heir in County Middlesex.

We have a copy of the document and we can find no reference to Edward.

Could Edward be the missing link?

20) Robert. Baptised 20-Nov-1607 Norwich St.Lawrence. Mentioned in his father's Will in connection with trade to Spain. Was apparently 'beyond the seas' in June 1647. Believed to have died in New London shortly after 27 Nov. 1668. Further details of his life in the New World can be found here.

21) Daniel. Baptised 25-Mar-1609-10 Norwich St.Lawrence. Presumed dead soon after birth.

22) Susann. Baptised 28-Feb-1610-1 Norwich St.Lawrence. Possible candidate for one of the unnamed daughters in her father's Will..

23) Katheryne.. Baptism not found but married Edmund Corke, mercer 16-Jan-1637 Norwich St.Gregory. Children John and Sarah mentioned in the 1649 Will. Katheryne presumed dead by 1647.

24) Jone. Baptised 19-Nov-1609 Norwich St.Gregory. Buried 28-Feb-1635 at the same church 'the daughter of John Loveland.

Matters Arising (Further Research)

1) The foregoing notes summarises what is currently known about the Norwich family and its connections with the Connecticut Lovelands of the 1650s. It would be most helpful to discover details of the movements of John Loveland (the younger) between the end of his apprenticeship in 1606 and his death sometime before 1647. Did this man marry Elizabeth Busfield in 1631? Where are the details of his/their children born between 1631 and 1646? Baptisms for Jane, John, Thomas and Mary, would be welcome confirmation (or otherwise) of our theories.

2) A very tenuous hypothesis has been offered as to how the Norwich family might connect with later generations in London, descendents of which may well be around today. Did Jeremy marry? Are there any details to be found about his family, if any? Where did Miss Farrow discover that a son Edward was his son and heir? Can a connection be made with William Loveland who married Eleanor Bilson 2-Jun-1741 at St Benet Pauls Wharf, London, the ancestor of Richard Loveland Loveland whose letters appear in the Loveland Genealogy? (Further details of this family can be found in The Loveland Coat of Arms, also at this site.)

3) At present we can offer no hypothesis as to where the Norwich family may have lived before coming to that City.

Help on this point would be much appeciated.

4) Some of the material presented at this site is the work of a professional researcher Miss M A Farrow who was working in the early 1930s for an American client called Paddock. The Farrow papers are held in the Library of the DAR in Washington, DC. It appears that Mr Paddock was a decendant of a Captain Paddock who married Mary Loveland, a co-heiress mentioned in the Will of John Loveland, proved 1641. Our guess is that the Mary was the only child of William Loveland who died in 1623.